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There are MANY polygamy groups on Facebook. Many. We are all together. All you have to do is seek them out. I’m in, like, 5?? lol
We talk about the dynamics of polygamous living — there are people writing BOOKS about it (I know of one actively that’s almost done and I saw another being promoted recently).
YOU have to find the group that’s right for you. There are mixed groups, there are predominately white groups, FLDS groups, Jewish groups, Islamic Afrocentric Groups, Women ONLY poly groups (because we ladies need to be able to talk and discuss our dynamics as wives!). As for straight Christian groups, I haven’t seen one, I also haven’t seen any straight Hebrew Israelite groups (nor am I interested in creating one because I don’t have the want to maintain it or be in charge of it — too busy). There are BIBLICAL groups and those consist of ANYONE who believes that poly is biblically sanctioned (and that could be ANYBODY).
But I MUST say that anyone who is a believer in the Bible and is pro-poly but is NOT Torah Observant — I have to ask why? Being that there are laws pertaining to how to run a polygynous household fairly and peacefully, I cannot understand why one would shirk off all the other laws but wanna keep those. Why do that and NOT do the dietary laws? Why do THAT and not do Passover — I can’t understand. Picking and choosing, man. Really. It’s an all or nothing deal in my opinion.
ANYWAY.
Sisterwives.yuku.com has been resurrected as polyliving.net. . Still a good bunch of people, still alot of families on there currently living the life who can give advice, still alot of good information at your fingertips on how to live poly. I STRONGLY suggest you read there, or get an account and gather real-life information from “experts” in the field.
Alright it’s Friday. I have another blog to update, and then it’s cleaning time since Shabbat is tonight. I pray that all are well, I pray that you’re taking care of yourself and that you’re seeking The Most High with your whole heart.
SHALOM
Sister Wife is a 2000 documentary that follows the Hebrew Israelites, an African American community that immigrated to Israel and practices polygamy. The men can have up to seven wives. The film follows a couple that’s been married for 21 years as they decide to take on another wife.
As I have been perusing the group discussions over the past few weeks, I have taken notice to (what seems to me) an almost incessant unrealistic romanticizing of polygyny by sisters. I’ve read about desires and daydreams of sisters wanting to ‘hang out’ with their sister-wives…frolic in the garden together …smoke blunts together…participating in “threesomes”, etc, etc. Polygyny, as it pertains to the Afrikan (especially here in America), is nothing to play with, take lightly, and should certainly not be injected and infected with the eurocentric created fantasy of romanticism. What I haven’t heard too much of from some of the *sisters* who post to this group is what they will do to CONTRIBUTE to what should be the one of the main intentions of entering into an Afrikan-centered polygynous lifestyle – ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STABILITY.
While each wife has their personal and intimate relationship with their husband, daily life should be about the business of running the family/household in a *productive* and conducive manner, and contributing to our community with the ultimate goal of collective nation-building. What MARKETABLE SKILLS are sisters “coming to the table with”, or are currently in the process of obtaining? The reality is, if the husband is not wealthy, he cannot and definitely should not be expected to be the sole provider or the only one who contributes a *steady and substantial income* to the family unit.
Sisters, it is absurd and unrealistic to have a romanticized notion of “hanging” with your sister wives all day, while your husband is out working two or three jobs to provide…this contradicts one of the most important reasons for polygyny, as it pertains to the Afrikan. Such a situation will also hinder the husband having time to build and maintain a close and solid relationship with his children.
Sisterhood is the nucleus of an Afrikan-centered polygynous lifestyle, however, this should not encourage a eurocentric, “sorority” mindset from the sisters, as it does absolutely nothing for the advancement of our community and culture. It is common tradition in our culture that the wife maintains the home, therefore, it is very important that sisters have spent sufficient time honing their domestic skills in preparation for marriage. In a polygynous family, depending on the number of sister-wives, it is practical that at least ONE of the wives are designated to maintain the home, homeschool the children (if that is the agreed upon method), and prepare wholesome meals, while her husband and sister wives are at work.
Sisters and *brothers*, the INTENTION for entering into a polygynous lifestyle should be made very clear PRIOR TO the commitment. Brothers, please do not fall into the trap that many sisters set by convincing their husband HE should be the sole provider and all of the wives are needed to stay home – this is not fair and is extremely counterproductive.
There is no place in an Afrikan-centered marriage (polygynous or monogamous) for any eurocentric ideologies of any kind, including fantastical romanticism.
~ Anissa W.
http://www.freewebs.com/patrickspolygynypage/
Overcoming Polyphobia; Polygyny is a life style choice.
Polygyny is a life style choice, some might call it an alternative life style since monogamy is the norm in contemporary western society.
Unlike other life style choices today however polygyny is widely viewed with disdain and even contempt in America and the west. The news media loves to do stories about polygyny usually finding some cult, perhaps where child abuse or forced marriages are common and then making the generalization that this is an accurate picture of polygyny and feeding that misconception to the public mind.
Is there any evidence to suggest that polygynous families are more abusive or are less loving than monogamous ones? No, in fact monogamous relationships lead the record for divorce, spousal abuse, and child abuse. Half of all monogamous marriages end in divorce, talk about the pot calling the kettle black, how can a group of people for whom half of their marriages fail, presume to lecture anyone about marriage and family relationships?
While increasingly liberal social ideologues agitate for the recognition and the conference of “rights” to marry for homosexuals, few consider the plight of today’s polygynous families who comprise at least several thousand in Utah alone (and at last count more than 40,000 in the wider USA). Individuals critical of the homosexual life style and adoption by homosexuals are labelled homophobic, bigoted, intolerant prejudiced. Yet while intolerance of homosexuality is condemned (a life style shown to increase the likelihood of contracting STDs, decrease the life span, and cause literally a plethora of social dysfunctions) polygyny is routinely denounced by liberals and even so-called conservatives as wrong and evil.
What are people afraid of? It is easy to judge polygyny when you don’t know any families or individuals who practice it and we can only refer to this ill informed judgement as a form of prejudice.
How many who condemn polygyny know even a single person who practices it? How many of them have ever spoken with someone who favours polygyny? Xenophobia is defined as a fear of strangers or foreigners, does not polyphobia fall into this category?
Perhaps if the monogamous community would take the time to meet those who practice polygyny just as they have with Gays and Lesbians, and to try to understand them as human beings they would gain new insight and appreciation for their lifestyle.
Polygyny actually has many benefits, having multiple wives makes it more likely that children will not be left home alone or with day care to be watched by strangers. The possibility of bringing in extra incomes while still having a stay at home parent or parental figure and the ability for a greater number of women to experience marriage considering that women out number men are also other considerations. Is it really fair to condemn many women to loneliness and singleness and to deprive them of motherhood simply because of a modern cultural taboo against polygyny? Looking at the question from this perspective I am baffled as to why feminists are not outspoken supporters of polygyny. In addition to the above mentioned benefits polygyny also enables a man to have a greater number of children faster.
While most modern Christians condemn polygyny today, they would do well to dust off their bibles and reconsider their position, the fact of the matter is that Abraham (whom the Bible refers to as righteous) as well as King David and Solomon all practiced polygyny, and there is nothing anywhere in the New Testament saying it is abolished or prohibited. In the Old Testament it is commanded that not one word or verse be added to God’s law, but isn’t that exactly what the Christian polyphobes do when they say polygyny is a sin against God? The Old Testament even says that Yahweh the God of Israel has two wives, Israel and Judah, can we possibly get a stronger endorsement for polygyny from Scripture than that?
The Protestant churches simply inherited their opposition to polygyny from the Roman Catholic Church, and would do well to re-examine the issue in light of scripture and apart from cultural and social conditioning. The Catholics took their opposition to polygyny from Rome, it has no basis in the Bible and is alien to Israelite culture.
As for those liberals, secular humanists and “progressives” who tolerate every kind of life style in the world except polygyny, surely the question must be asked why single out polygynous families for persecution?
Do not polygynous families have the same right to pursue the relationship of their choice that anyone else does?
The next time you hear about homophobia, islamophobia, xenophobia prejudice or bigotry remember that Polyphobia is equally intolerant, ignorant, hateful and insensitive to most of the world’s cultures which have observed polygyny at some point, including today. That includes geographic regions and cultures as diverse as that of Northern European, the Middle Eastern, Indian, African, Asian and Native American.
To condemn polygyny is xenophobic, it is polyphobia and it is intolerant.
Help fight polyphobia, please take a humane stand in defence of human rights, stop the hate, stop the bigotry, stop the persecution.
http://truenubia.com/bravenewworld/
Brave New World is named after a book about a dystopian future. It’s an awesome book. But ah, that’s not the point. The site is about watching and being aware of what’s going on out here in our world, the “matrix”. If you’re into the conspiracy theories (and know they aren’t ALL a crock of bleep), all natural health care, check it out.
http://kushadelic.com/
Kushadelic is a Pan African/Pro Black polygyny site.
If you need survival gear — that is, bug out kits, medical kits, MREs and the like — this is your site to get all of that so that you can be PREPARED.
Thassit for now! Shalom
Shalom!
I know — it’s been a WHILE. Please forgive me on these long pauses I take. If you’re my friend on facebook, you know that I “be” around, on my phone most of the time. My laptop has been in the shop for months — this one is on loan from my sister and I’ll have it for another 45 minutes, at which point she’ll be over here and I’ll have to return it! lol
The person fixing my laptop is doing it for free — so that is why I’m not pestering. I know akh is busy I will not jump on his back on the matter… but it’d be nice to get my laptop back. Husband says I should let it GO because it’s OLD, but it’s still ticking even past it’s life span expectations.
I know so many women that are deathly afraid of polygyny. They have husbands that are persuing it, or they know me, personally, and the very idea of sharing a man scares them completely. They fear jealousy, someone possibly being better than them in some way. They were bred to be competitive, to be the one wife of a man. They — WE — have all been taught that we are to act jealously if our man expresses interest in another woman. They — WE, again lol — have all been taught that if he loves someone else, he cannot possibly love us!
This is an untruth! Just as you can have more than one best friend (or at least I do – I have 4 total, 3 of which I’ve known since childhood), or more than one child that you love, a man can have love for each woman that is his wife.
Another thing that is shocking to me is when we, in this society, are okay with, say, Bill Clinton having a mistress. Or ourselves or our friends having multiple baby daddies/mamas — but when someone mentions a man, being faithful to his WIVES, making a commitment to these WOMEN — people wanna freak out. Why the freak out? We’re not talking Warren Jeffs underage child, forced polygyny, we are talking consenting adults making an agreement to be a family, to raise their children and support one another, together.
I just wanted to address that. Also, let me post up a WiseNubianPolygyny video, and a .pdf from amarthenazerene. AWESOME KNOWLEDGE!!!
Shalom!
Messianic Polygyny
And in that day, seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by your name, to take away our reproach.
– Yesha’yahu [Isaiah] 4:1
For the ancient Israelites, the manifestation of Kingdom order in their midst set them apart from all the other great nations of the ancient world – head and shoulders above the pagan, goddess worshipping heathen round about. And in ordering the families of Yisrael [Israel], the use of polygyny (the practice of one man having more than one wife) was not uncommon – especially among the great patriarchs of the faith…
Abraham, Ya’aqob (Jacob), Moshe (Moses), Dawid (David) and many others had more than one wife. The great lawgiver Moshe himself, who commanded that adulterers should be stoned to death, made provisions for polygyny in the Torah – and under certain circumstances, even required it as a matter of law (Debarim [Deut.] 25:5; 21:15-17).
Hear O Yisrael – the original promise to our father Abraham that he would be the father of many nations was itself a call to polygyny! Sélah.
After all, in most cases, if a man has only one wife, he can only birth one nation! This is why it is written of Abraham, “But unto the sons of the concubines (secondary wives), which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.” (Bereshit [Gen.] 25:6).
And as it is written, “And if you be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Gal. 3:29).
As of this year, some eighty-plus percent of the world’s societies practice polygyny. And yet according to her own statistics, the United States of America, which considers polygyny immoral, leads the world in adultery, divorce, rape, prostitution and pornography (not to mention drug abuse, alcoholism, and murder). Nevertheless, the issue of biblical polygyny still stirs great wrath among those born and raised under Hellenistic philosophies and influence.
Clearly, Western theologians interpret Hebrew Israelite scripture with a Greco-Roman cultural bias. How then could they NOT conclude that the ‘New Testament’ condemns the practice of polygyny? And the end result has been that the vast majority of the household of faith, and so-called black people in particular, are completely unaware of the longstanding history of Messianic/Christian polygyny…
Nevertheless, as we so often prophesy, true Biblical marriage is being restored to the faithful remnant at this very hour! Why? The truth is, the revelation of polygyny in Christ is key to not only setting Messianic/True Christian families in order, but to preparing the true churches for Y’shua!
Hear O Yisrael – the marriage of Y’shua and the Church is/will be a plural marriage! Sélah.
For example, in the Song of Solomon [which is by all accounts, a glorious prefiguring of Messiah’s love for His Church], it was said to King Solomon by his favorite queen, the Shulamite, “…your name (honor, authority and character) is as ointment poured forth; therefore do the virgins (young women) love you. Draw me, and WE will run after you…” (Shir HaShirim [The Song of Songs] 1:3.4).
Y’shua Himself revealed Messianic polygyny in His betrothal to the Church, through His parable of the ten virgins [See MattitYahu (Matt.) 25:1-13]. (Remember, Y’shua lived and taught outside of the context of Greco-Roman marriage – i.e. ‘mandatory monogamy’, ‘bridesmaids’, etc.) To be sure, there is only ONE church – but there are many varied aspects of the Light of Mashiach that are of necessity reflected and highlighted by various congregations. Sélah.
And beyond dispensationalism, this is why Y’shua, in His very Revelation to the world, chose to address seven churches (seven “wives”) rather than the whole nation at once – revealing yet another reflection of the spiritually polygynous nature of YHWH and Y’shua!
As we have consistently pointed out, it’s no mere coincidence that the nation of Israel – the very root and foundation of true ‘Christianity’ – sprang forth from our father Ya’aqob (Jacob) and his four wives. To suggest that polygyny constitutes adultery is to suggest that ancient Israel was a nation of bastards! Would the Most High, pristine in His holiness, enter into a sacred oath with an accursed people? YAH forbid!!
Moreover, in the book of Revelation – which is after all, a part of the ‘New Covenant’ – it is written that the names of the twelve sons resulting from Ya’aqob’s polygynous relationships are permanently enshrined in the gates of the Holy City, the New Jerusalem! (Rev. 21:12). This is the very abode of YHWH HIMSELF! How then can we dare suggest that Messianic/Christian polygyny is sinful? Again, YAH forbid!!
And again, allegorically speaking, even YHWH Himself is polygynous…
It is written, “The word of YHWH came again to me, saying, Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother. They committed harlotry in Egypt, they committed harlotry in their youth; their breasts were there embraced, their virgin bosom was there pressed. Their names: Oholah the elder and Oholibah her sister; they were Mine, and they bore sons and daughters. As for their names, Samaria is Oholah, and Jerusalem is Oholibah…” (Yechezkel [Ezek.] 23:1-4).
Hear O Yisrael – as a critical point of truth; without a revelation of the spiritual polygyny of our Father YAH, and our Mashiach Y’shua, we simply cannot fully understand how YAH operates His creation; how Y’shua administrates His church; or how to fully discern the Father’s perfect will for our lives, families, congregations and communities!
disinheritance
The ancient prophets of Israel foresaw and prophesied in the Spirit that because of backsliding and rebellion, in the course of time, the covenant blessings, including polygyny, would be stripped from the nation – for a season. As it is written, “For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim…” (Hoshea [Hosea] 3:4).
Even so, biblical polygyny will once again prove to be a critical key to restoring our overall national inheritance in Messiah/Christ.
Over the last seventeen centuries or so, multiplied millions of the faithful have been misled into believing an “ideal” marriage is composed of one man and one woman (“mandatory monogamy”). In truth, this “sacred cow” of Greco-Roman theology is nothing more than a religious facade and genocidal alternative to biblical polygyny – right along with adultery, fornication, prostitution, homosexuality, lesbianism, forced abstinence, forced celibacy, serial polygamy, etc.
And of course, many of us have come to believe that plural marriage is just another fleshly practice, and is actually a part of the problem rather than the solution. For example, polygyny’s opponents site rape, child molestation, forced marriages with underage girls, etc. as undesirable aspects of polygyny, and thus reasons to reject it. But in point of truth, these tendencies are manifested just as often in so-called ‘monogamous’ marriages!
Obviously, these kinds of abuses should be rejected and punished in all instances – but based upon the actual offenses involved; whatever the marital arrangement happens to be. Plain and simple. But beyond that, there are some very basic problems with ‘mandatory monogamy’:
1) It’s unscriptural.
2) It forces large numbers of righteous women to remain husbandless or worse.
3) In cases where a wife cannot bear children, it makes it impossible for a man to produce an heir without divorce.
For the most part, the monumental error of ‘mandatory monogamy’ is sustained by a poor translation of the apostle Paul’s directive in 1 Timothy (and Titus) requiring bishops to be “the husband of one wife.” It therefore becomes needful to understand what was actually being taught about marriage in this epistle.
To begin with, in chapter five of that same epistle, the apostle writes that a widow should not be taken under the financial care of the church unless she has been “…the wife of one man…” (1 Tim. 5:9). But the word “one” in that passage is “heis”, which is the Greek word for the actual number “1”. Paul was clearly teaching that such a woman had to have been the wife of only one husband – in other words, a woman free of adultery.
It was not merely by chance that a completely different word for “one” was used when referring to the qualifications for a bishop! The Greek word, “mia”, was used in the passage “A bishop must then be blameless, the husband of one wife…” (1 Tim. 3:2).
In other words, although the Greek word “mia” can accurately be translated as “one”, given the fact that a totally different Greek word for “one” was used in this passage, a more accurate translation of “mia” into English in this particular instance would be “first.”
And certainly, those who later translated the Greek NT into English were “Greco-Romanized” (Hellenized), and thus translating from a culturally biased, non-Hebraic frame of reference.
Rather than forbidding a bishop to practice polygyny, the apostle Paul was simply saying that a bishop must be a man who has remained faithful to his first wife – a man free of adultery. In both instances, the issue isn’t polygyny, it’s adultery, or the breaking of wedlock – the Hebraic/Mosaic laws of which are different for male and female.
Secondly, most Hellenized biblical scholars point to Adahm and Khawah (Adam and Eve) as proof that monogamy is YAH’s ideal form of marriage. One man, one woman. But in truth, when the two became one flesh, the marital equation became 1 + 1 = 1. And without violating YAH’s original intent for the creation of male and female, this divine arithmetic clearly allows for 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 as well…
Thirdly, a major rationale for the remnant continuing in ‘mandatory monogamy’ is supposed obedience to the apostle Kefa’s [Peter’s] directive to the church to “submit yourselves to every ordinance of man.” In other words, Messianics/Christians should only enter into “legal” marriages, which includes a “marriage license” from the state.
But the word “ordinance” in that passage is simply referring to the form of government, as in “whether it be to the king as supreme, or unto governors” etc. – not to blindly following every man-made doctrine or ungodly statute! Following that line of reasoning, the original disciples of Y’shua were wrong for preaching the Gospel, since it caused them to be jailed as violators of the law…
Furthermore, the apostle Paul instructed us to forsake worldly courts to judge even the smallest disputes among the saints [See 1 Cor. 6:1-8]. How much more then should we recognize that the true authority to sanction our marriages in the sight of YAH rests squarely upon the shoulders of the faithful remnant ALONE!
In reality, placing our marriages in the hands of the state has resulted in unheard of levels of divorce, and actually led to rampant adultery as well. For example, if a man were to put away a YAH-ordained wife in a “no fault” divorce, the state [and tragically, most churches] would then grant him continued good standing in their respective communities, and even sanction another “marriage” that YAH has declared to be unlawful! Sélah.
Historically speaking, it wasn’t until the onset of European incursion into the “New World” (1492 c.e.) that the authority to sanction marriage was moved from the church alone into an alliance with the state, by decree of the Vatican. So then, were all the marriages in the Most High that occurred in the nearly fifteen-hundred years before that point illegitimate? Obviously not. As it is written “What YAH has joined together, let not man put asunder.”
Finally brethren, coming full circle; this whole dynamic played itself out in the first family of faith…
The reason Sarah’s handmaid Hagar despised her when she became with child by Abraham was that Hagar then assumed she had the right to claim Abraham exclusively. Unlike the freewoman – the mighty woman of faith, Sarah – Hagar was an Egyptian slave who cherished the mandatory monogamy practiced by the common people of her mother nation…
Rather than convert to Abraham’s YAH-ordained patriarchal and polygynous family structure, she remained loyal to her slave heritage – and raised her son accordingly. [Was this the gratitude Sarah deserved for sharing her husband with her handmaid?]
Notice that when Hagar finally fled from Sarah’s indignation, the angel of YAH sent to comfort her did not agree with, nor confirm her stand for mandatory monogamy. Instead, he told her to return and submit to her ‘mistress’ – the HEAD wife, Sarah. Hagar returned, but refused to submit.
The enduring rift between Isaac and Ishmael; between Israelites and Arabs; between the Torah and the Qur’an, is the devastating result.
RESTORATION
According to the scriptures, the sun, moon and stars typify the family. It is written, “He gave the lesser light to rule the NIGHT.” I am fully persuaded that every foul spirit of darkness that would keep this controversy boiling will soon end up where they belong: under the feet of the daughters of Abraham! HalleluYAH!!
We are now living in the age when the prophecy of YeshaYahu (Isaiah) concerning seven women taking hold of one man must be fulfilled; especially among Hebrew Israelites (“African-Americans”/”blacks”) – if for no other reason than as a matter of sheer survival!
The truth is the same today as it’s always been. When a righteous woman is filled with the Holy Spirit, her natural desire is to be a wife and mother with only one man. But often times, due to dire circumstances, the Spirit will lead a married Israelite man to take on an additional wife. And, contrary to popular worldly and even ‘religious’ opinions, not so much for his sake, but for her sake. Sélah.
For example, in most societies, including America, it often comes down to basic arithmetic – women simply outnumber men. And when you add to that the huge, disproportionate number of Israelite men in prison, the problem for our people becomes even more acute. In many instances, unmarried women, many of them with children, who need a strong man of YAH, are called to plural marriage by necessity. For these causes, the Ruakh (Spirit) leads men and women in different ways for the overall benefit of the family, the community, and the Kingdom.
In the final analysis, the Truth of the matter is, the Babylonian/Greco-Roman doctrine and pseudo-practice of ‘mandatory monogamy’ is a manifestation of the spirit of Jezebel…
Nevertheless, take heart, children of YAH! For just as the ministry of EliYahu (Elijah) overcame the spirit of rebellion in Ekhab and Isabel (Ahab and Jezebel); and the spirit of Elijah in Yehochanan (John the Baptist) did the same to prepare the way for Mashiach; so the spirit of Jezebel slandering the Kingdom order of family in our generation will be overcome – through YAH’s true shalachim v’nabim (apostles and prophets). HalleluYAH!!
Hear O Yisrael – true Messianic polygyny is not only acceptable in the Beloved, it is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled!
It is written, “And I will restore to you the years that the locust has eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. And you shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of YHWH your Elohim, that has dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.” (Yo’el [Joel] 2:25,26). Behold, the hour is at hand…
Rejoice all you holy ones, and be glad! For YAH has chosen to restore Kingdom order to the lost/found Messianic Israelite Commonwealth in our own generation… Including the divine polygynous family order of our father Abraham – the fulfillment of the Great Promise – and the glorious Kingdom Shalom that shall most assuredly be the result!
Shalom Aleichem!

